The run in

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Good stuff!
I'm addicted already!

Agreed , this is brilliant .Re team names , the Scottish ones are definitely easier to pick out .57 year history that's amazing , hope your lads carry on the tradition Ralph !

I'll have to post the Dutch and Belgians for you..see how many you recognise we've probably got around 20 club names for each of the old European countries if you follow my drift...we don't bother thinking up clubs for the "new" post 1990 nations...

I've added the English/Welsh clubs our boys represent to the above - the ones that don't really match up are my Dads original clubs who he didn't want to lose when the newer more reality based names were added...similarily a lot of the less obvious names and/or older clubs play in kits that don't match their real life counterparts..Liverport for example play in ref 21..Fareham in Claret and Blue.. despite being Liverpool and Everton because thats the teams he bought way back when

whereas my Scottish clubs all wear a kit as worn by the real club at some point ...apart from Dalkeith...who I bought a 173 for back in the 70's and now play in 154...

Thanks for adding team names Ralph Great to read the origins / reasons for some teams and kits .It never occurred to me as a child (or since tbh ) To use made up team names , or plays on real teams .However it was commonplace I reckon because I've had loads of HWT teams go through my hands over the years , many with some great made up team names and players written on /and or in the boxes .Good thread mate , although I fear solo playing is lost to a lot of folk on forums

I certainly know of a couple of other Leagues run the same way..I think the mix of original names and later purpose devised names is my fault as Dad thought I would be more likely to take an interest with more "realistic" names ... dunno if thats the case really,I'm sure I'd have been interested anyway I'm one of these football fans that has always had an interest in the more unusual clubs/leagues...I don't think many kids in my mid 1970's Burnley Primary school had an indepth knowledge of the Northern Premier and Cheshire Leagues... but I did...

Yes, Jim. It is a great thread.
Inspiring stuff.

gracias my friends ... I had always assumed we were crazy to be honest

true story about 2 years ago I was on a Clarets forum when I suddenly get a cryptic email from a childhood friend of my Dads...

I take it you are related to Peter says he ? then follows the epic question ...... what do you know about Melchester CITY ?! the circle of friends had all played together in the local church youth club back in the 50's...

It's a book in the making, Ralph.
Write it.

One game left ...Goal Average used in England

2011 - 2012. 28th April 2012

PREMIER DIVISION.

1 Trentham Hotspur 60
2 Cheswall 55
3 Fareham 55
4 Chidsea 53
5 Liverport 53
6 Launcester City 48
7 Malton Castle 47
8 Burnham 45
9 Ipsworth Town 44
10 Redhill Athletic 44
11 Prestbridge North End 41
12 Dunwich City 39
13 Melchester City 39
14 Melchester City 39
15 Corbridge Rangers 38
16 Middlesfield 35
17 Nottingdale Forest 35
18 West Evesham Town 30
19 Ashbury 28 45/79 0.57
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20 Wolverton Wanderers 27 51/70 0.73
21 Baymouth Town 24
22 Rotheringham City 23

SECOND DIVISION

1 Eastoke United 61 84/36 2.33
2 Conisley City 59 74/34 2.18
3 Westborough United 57 66/39 1.69
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4 Kirkhampton 57 78/52 1.50
5 Leesdale United 56 79/44 1.80
6 Northeaton Borough 48
7 Blackport 45
8 Stortford Wednesday 44
9 Grantham City 43
10 Howden Athletic 43
11 Boreham Trinity 42
12 Portsea 41
13 Southborough 41
14 Ramsgrove United 40
15 Bridgford Rovers 35
16 Purbrook Argyle 34
17 Swaledon Town 31
18 Droxford County 28
19 Milford Albion 28
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20 Ashford Villa 24
21 Redstoke Rovers 23
22 Whiteburn Rovers 22

THIRD DIVISION

1 Swanwich City 56
2 Dutton Albion 54
3 Roxwell Town 53
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4 Fexton County 50
5 Yiewsbury City 50
6 Blackton Albion 46
7 Stortford Rangers 46
8 Bradwick City 45
9 Dursley 43
10 Hadleigh Town 43
11 Hampton Park Rangers 42
12 Wruabon 42
13 Fenquay United 41
14 Newhaven 40
15 Yeovale Town 39
16 Milnecambe Town 35
17 Vale Albion 35
18 Bradwick Park Avenue 32 54/67 0.81
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19 Emsall 31 52/72 0.72
20 Colbrook United 30 48/73 0.66
21 Wyredale Athletic 25
22 Southwood Athletic 24

Come on Launcester ! Top six finish is on the cards , gotta be happy with that Do you do an Inter Cities Fairs Cup Ralph
Goal average , interesting subject , only found out half-way through my Dutch 68-69 season that they worked on goal difference even then Always assumed it would be goal average , can't even remember why I checked

We have two Euro competitions run by the main man ... He does a Champions League style one with Group games BUT just for Champions as it should be ...

I think the Cup Winners.. League Cup winners..and then the highest placed couple of League sides play in his Fairs Cup style compo.. I know something my Scottish clubs never do well in either these days I usually get handed a list of crushing defeats to add to my records at some point well before the Finals...

Nervous stuff on the final day as all the important games in the top two divisions finish in draws...Ashbury's one all draw at home to in form Launcester is enough to preserve their status...despite a brave Wolverton draw at Liverport the Wanderers are down after 12 years in the topflight ..

In the Second Division Wanderers Black country neighbours Westborough draw at Champions Eastoke to take the third promotion spot after Kirkhampton can only draw at relegated Ashford Villa and Leesdale are held at home by bottom club Whiteburn...

Meanwhile Bradwick Park Avenue survive in Division Three after a home win over Milnecambe..Emsall and Colbrook also win but its all in vain..next seasons Third Division will include an incredible 8 sides from the White Rose county

2011 - 2012. 5th May 2012

PREMIER DIVISION.

1 Trentham Hotspur 61
2 Cheswall 57
3 Fareham 57
4 Chidsea 54
5 Liverport 54
6 Launcester City 49
7 Malton Castle 48
8 Burnham 46
9 Redhill Athletic 46
10 Ipsworth Town 45
11 Prestbridge North End 42
12 Dunwich City 41
13 Melchester City 40
14 Corbridge Rangers 39
15 Melchester Rovers 39
16 Nottingdale Forest 36
17 Middlesfield 35
18 West Evesham Town 30
19 Ashbury 29
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20 Wolverton Wanderers 28
21 Baymouth Town 24
22 Rotheringham City 24

SECOND DIVISION

1 Eastoke United 62
2 Conisley City 59
3 Westborough United 58 ( 66/39 1.69)
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4 Kirkhampton 58 (78/52 1.50)
5 Leesdale United 57
6 Northeaton Borough 50
7 Blackport 46
8 Howden Athletic 45
9 Boreham Trinity 44
10 Grantham City 44
11 Stortford Wednesday 44
12 Portsea 42
13 Southborough 42
14 Ramsgrove United 40
15 Purbrook Argyle 36
16 Bridgford Rovers 35
17 Swaledon Town 33
18 Droxford County 28
19 Milford Albion 28
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20 Ashford Villa 25
21 Redstoke Rovers 25
22 Whiteburn Rovers 23

THIRD DIVISION

1 Swanwich City 58
2 Dutton Albion 54
3 Roxwell Town 53
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4 Fexton County 52
5 Yiewsbury City 52
6 Blackton Albion 46
7 Stortford Rangers 46
8 Bradwick City 45
9 Hadleigh Town 45
10 Wruabon 44
11 Dursley 43
12 Fenquay United 43
13 Hampton Park Rangers 42
14 Newhaven 42
15 Yeovale Town 39
16 Vale Albion 37
17 Milnecambe Town 35
18 Bradwick Park Avenue 34
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19 Emsall 33
20 Colbrook United 32
21 Wyredale Athletic 25
22 Southwood Athletic 24

I'm tipping Blackton Albion for promotion next season

well they will certainly be one of the favourites..big club in the 70's and 80's not done much since I'm afraid..but they have won the League twice and the League Cup once...

Perhaps I should be following them rather than the Seagulls. What years were they ?

I couldn't honestly say but I think 1970's rather than 80's .. I've got all my Scottish records computerised but the English stuff is typed out and stored in files in my Dad's study .. I think computerising the English records is a project I may well attempt in the near future as I don't think Dad is about to take it on !! but its now 57 years worth if I do decide to start entering it all on to a computer maybe I'll do it as a surprise for him...not much on telly these days is there ? All I have on here at present is a running total for honours -

Blackton Albion

Champions 68-9 and 73-4

League Cup Winners 84-5....4-2 v Kirkhampton

unsurprisingly at that time I have a feeling I was Kirkhampton in that Final

ralphtheclaret wrote:

Blackton Albion

Champions 68-9 and 73-4

League Cup Winners 84-5....4-2 v Kirkhampton

unsurprisingly at that time I have a feeling I was Kirkhampton in that Final

Thanks Ralph. The sleeping giants will rise again.

A rare event in this afternoons Cup Final..very rare

Dunwich City 0 Trentham Hotspur 0 AET

of course no penalties replay Wednesday evening .... Jim Launcester are already in Europe next season after winning the League Cup in February..also qualified are Dunwich regardless of the replay result as Trentham are Champions...

0-0 eh , poor finishing ? quality goalkeeping ? bogged down in mid-field ? Come on mate , only half the story here , I need to know more , some match action pics with that new camera of yours would be good too

Replay...Dunwich 0 Trentham H 1 (Werdekker 74 minutes)...another tense affair....press black out to be lifted later ...Trentham complete the double and are still in Europe although we still seem to be at the semi-final stage for some reason as the man in charge is currently in Albufeira it could be a while before we get any further on that front

oh well .... Semi Final news

Trentham Hotspur v A.C. Milazzo 3-3.1-4.

no English Euro Trophies since the late 1980's

some late results..Euro Cup AC Milazzo 2 Sporting Lerida 0....Europa Trophy AJ Auxonne 3 SSC Navoli 0....solo played by the boss...eventually... ..picture the scene Manchester airport arrivals three am..nice holiday?..aye Dad..have you played those chuffing finals yet?..

Well 9 games in Prestbridge NE lead the Prem from Liverport and Trentham....relegated Wolverton top Division Two meanwhile fallen giants Blackton are struggling in Division Three last nights home win over Yeovale lifted them up to 21st in the table...its derby day almost every week in Division Three where I've suddenly noticed I have no less than 8 Yorkshire clubs!!

ralphtheclaret wrote:

meanwhile fallen giants Blackton are struggling in Division Three last nights home win over Yeovale lifted them up to 21st in the table...its derby day almost every week in Division Three where I've suddenly noticed I have no less than 8 Yorkshire clubs!!

Sack the Board ...Sack the Board.....Sack the Board.

ralphtheclaret wrote:

Well 9 games in Prestbridge NE lead the Prem from Liverport and Trentham....relegated Wolverton top Division Two meanwhile fallen giants Blackton are struggling in Division Three last nights home win over Yeovale lifted them up to 21st in the table...its derby day almost every week in Division Three where I've suddenly noticed I have no less than 8 Yorkshire clubs!!

I'll tell Liono when I see him , should be a laugh .

Love the Dad at the airport story Ralph too , I can so relate to that Brilliant

Derby day nightmare for the Blues..Launcester City 1 Conisley City 3....visitors in an unheard of 5th Launcester and Burnham joint 8/9th...Redstoke 3 Blackton 1 Albion down to 20th

ralphtheclaret wrote:

Derby day nightmare for the Blues..Launcester City 1 Conisley City 3....visitors in an unheard of 5th Launcester and Burnham joint 8/9th...Redstoke 3 Blackton 1 Albion down to 20th

Something must be done Ralph.

COME ON KIRKHAMPTON! Final push, lads. Don't bottle it now!

Kirkhampton won 3-1 at Southborough yesterday and are currently 10th having sold their top scorer to Trentham in the summer...

Just realised that I was eyeing last seasons final table, Ralph. Gutted they missed out. Classic case of SHAKEY FINGER on the last day?



Nevermind, I shall be following their progress this season.

They blew it with a 0-0 at relegated Villa...

All three chasing the last spot drew on the last day....two against relegated teams....its all about the pressure

Latest....Ipsworth 2 Launcester 2...City 8th - Kirkhampton 3 Boreham 1...also 8th - Blackton 1 Ashford V 2...22nd...I think incoming transfers are required for Albion..

Good stuff Ralph , keep posting these

Launcester City 0 Corbridge Rangers 1...Grantham City 1 Kirkhampton 1...and as for the Albion mmm Bradwick City 3 Albion 1...both sides were in the bottom five so this was something of a disaster for Blackton...just to prove my honest approach a team wearing Blue/White halves have taken 23 points from the 24 available so far...

Oi Ralphy boy , get your Dad flicking that Launcester , you clearly ain't up to the task mate

Christmas gone and we are just past the half way stage .... can Trentham win a third title in a row - its never happened before.....


2012 - 2013.

PREMIER DIVISION.

1 Cheswall 36
2 Trentham H. 36 - chasing an unheard of 3rd title in a row which would be nice
3 Burnham 35 - 11 unbeaten Melchester City at home this week part of me hopes they lose a couple though
4 Melchester C. 33
5 Liverport 32
6 Conisley C. 30
7 Prestbridge N.E. 29
8 Middlesfield 28
9 Dunwich C. 25
10 Westborough U. 25
11 West Evesham T. 25
12 Ipsworth T. 24
13 Redhill A. 24
14 Launcester C. - 23 mid-table boredom this season
15 Malton C. 22
16 Chidsea 20
17 Fareham 20
18 Ashbury 19
19 Corbridge R. 19
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20 Eastoke U. 17
21 Melchester R. 15
22 Nottingdale F. 13

SECOND DIVISION.

1 Baymouth T. 33 - oh dear
2 Purbrook A. 33 - oh no
3 Swaledon T. 33 - bloody hell
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4 Wolverton W. 33 - come on catch the minnows
5 Grantham C. 32 - come on catch the others
6 Dutton A. 31 - decades outside the top division come on lads
7 Boreham T. 28
8 Portsea 27
9 Southborough 26
10 Blackport 25
11 Bridgford R. 25
12 Kirkhampton 25 - mundane Steve mundane
13 Leesdale U. 25
14 Milford A. 24
15 Howden A. 23
16 Ramsgrove U. 23
17 Northeaton B. 19
18 Rotheringham C. 19
19 Roxwell T. 19
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20 Stortford W. 18
21 Droxford C. 16 - Premier Champions in 2005
22 Swanwich C. 13

THIRD DIVISION.

1 Whiteburn R. 37 - all conquering bloody stuffing everyone
2 Hampton P.R. 35
3 Bradwick P.A. 30 - almost 40 years in the bottom divisions
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4 Hadleigh T. 29
5 Fenquay U. 28
6 Dunborough 27
7 Dursley 26
8 Newhaven 26
9 Wruabon 26
10 Milnecambe T. 25
11 Vale A. 25
12 Yeovale T. 25
13 Ashford V. 22
14 Dreyton O. 22
15 Stortford R. 22
16 Redstoke R. 21
17 Stretton A. 16
18 Yiewsbury C. 16
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19 Blackton A. 14 - were miles behind picking up now and won at Premier side Eastoke in the FA Cup last week
20 Bradwick C. 14
21 Fexton C. 14
22 Petersfield U. 11

Come on Albion ! But do we need a cup run ?

Thanks for posting the league tables Ralph, nice to see who we are competing against.

beaten 2-0 at Park Avenue in a battle of the Greens today .. Bradwick City beat Stretton 3-0 and bottom club Petersfield won ... Burnham lost 3-1 to Melchester City

P Champions Trentham Hotspur (3rd in a row and that has never happened before)
P Relegated  Launcester City,Nottingdale Forest,Melchester Rovers.

2 Promoted   Milford Albion,Grantham City,Baymouth Town.
2 Relegated  Stortford Wednesday,Roxwell Town,Swanwich City.

3 Promoted   Whiteburn Rovers,Fenquay United,Hadleigh Town.
3 Relegated   Fexton County,Yiewsbury City,Stretton Albion,Blackton Albion.

4N Promoted  Hodwell Town and Linchester City
4S Promoted  Bridgford City and Emsall

4N and 4S     Re-elected .. all of the bottom 4 as far as I know !

EFA Cup Winners  Cheswall
Senior League Cup Winners  Ipsworth Town
Junior League Cup Winners  Linchester City

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Two Albions relegated from Div 3 !!  Oh well lets hope Blackton can mount a promotion challenge next year.  I'm going to start four divisions next year Ralph, but not actually playing all the games !

a sad day for the Albion Steve .. almost caught up then faltered in the run in .. such is the benefit of playing the game fairly and squarely you sometimes feel genuinely sad when something goes against the grain...this was one of those times...another was my Scottish play offs whereby QOTV the alter ego of my favourite Scottish club drew away and then lost the 2nd leg at home ... I was gutted for five minutes possibly longer...

3-3 away .. 2nd leg at home the cards decided this fixture so up pops a 2 for Queens surely they are up into the Prem ?  nooooo !!!! a 3 for the visitors disaster....

Ralph " &*%% hell £$"!%**&"

Wife " Whats up ? "

Ralph "Queens have blown it "

Wife " I thought they walked the title ?"

Ralph " Aye they did - not them love my &£$"!*&*  Queens !"

..now there is no answer to that but the knowing shake of the head said it all...

 at least your wife must have a degree of understanding, otherwise she would have called the men in white coats by now.

As I've only played out individual seasons, I've not yet experienced the full extent of a relegation in solo play or the joys of surviving on the last day.  Looking forward to setting up my four divisions next season.

Will play all the First Division games but not yet decided how to work the games I won't actually play. How does your card system work ?